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Hi to the community!
My query concerns(in the broadest sense) the major hassles that can come with upgrading an OS, and specifically the drivers (and possibly the graphics card) when doing so (at least in my particular case).
I previously posted a similar Q in the public forum.....as well as subsequently posting private messages to several of the Experts about my problem. But as they have all deigned to provide any response.....I am posting publicly once again in the great hope that somebody in a more knowledgeable state than myself will PLEASE be in a position to help me...
I have a VGN-AR51SU with factory installed Vista 32-bit OS. I recently upgraded to Windows 7 64-bit (I have the requisite 4 Gb RAM installed to facilitate this).
The problem is that I can't find the following drivers to replace what I originally had for the Vista OS in windows 7:
Mass Storage Controller (missing)
Multimedia Controller (missing)
Graphics driver
The Graphics driver is now the 2006 version, which I presume to be the original (instead of an updated 2009 version which I had installed). My system appears to use the: Geforce 8600M GT.
I wish to know how essential the Mass Storage & Multimedia drivers are, and how destabilising/inhibiting to my system being without them is (as I cannot find Win 7 versions of them). If they are available with/within some name/pack that I am not familiar with then I would very much appreciate being pointed in the right direction.
But more visibly pressing is the problem with the Graphics driver. I can't find a driver that my system/OS will accept/install as compatible. Given that my upgrade is only from Vista to Win 7, I am understandably finding this extremely frustrating, as my graphics functionality IS now proving to be substantially impaired. I've tried installing prior driver versions (2009, etc) which ran with my Vista OS, etc, (and various supposedly appropriate graphics drivers from the NVidia site) with no success.
I consequently came to the reluctant conclusion that changing the graphics hardware (if no compatible software was available anywhere) would prove necessary, but seem to be finding (please correct me if this is wrong) that the graphics card/chipset can't be swapped out.
Which would leave me up a certain creek without a certain instrument.....and left with the unpleasantly stark choice of either having to go back from Win 7 (which would then prove to have been a complete waste of my money for the Win 7 OS) to Vista (which I don't have a disk to enable a reinstall of) or continuing with the unacceptably far from perfect (at present) system.
Had I known that so supposedly simple a thing as driver updating for a single step-up of OS would prove such a bang-your-head-on-the-wall experience then I wouldn't ever have gotten a SONY notebook. But I didn't....and here I consequently am.....
So if anybody knows a productive way out of/around my upgrade problem/s (other than my reverting to Vista or buying a new notebook) then....I would like to state once again that....I will be VERY grateful for any help you can supply!
Thank you in advance for any response!!
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Another update........
Formatted my PC and did a fresh install of Win 7 64-bit last night.
As soon as the install was completed I tried a modded Graphics Driver update (one I had previously been trying without success) and it has installed and works perfectly!
So I guess my previous failures don't necessarily mean that a particular thing isn't possible. Just maybe that it is best being done right the first time.......
Hi Laptop.Man
As I see it, the main problem is that you have changed from a 32-bit version of Windows to a 64-bit version. This requires a clean install and is not supported by Sony so there are no 64-bit drivers for several of your Vaio's devices.
The Mass Storage Controller is for the SD and MS Memory Card slots.
The Multimedia Controller is for the AverMedia TV Tuner Card.
There is no Sony 64-bit Graphics driver for your model.
You can probably do without the first two but you do need a 64-bit Graphics driver. It will be necessary to use a modified installer .INF file to get non-Sony graphics drivers to install. Go to this website:
and filter by Windows 7 64-bit drivers. Choose a driver that is WHQL certified and has had plenty of downloads - Version 302.59 looks promising. Read the "Quickstart Guide" at the bottom of the right-hand column for instructions. It is not as complex as it first appears!!!
Apart from the Graphics Driver, an 'upgrade in place' to Windows 7 32-bit would have been the simplest solution as the existing Vista drivers for the MemoryCard Slots and the TV Tuner would have worked with Windows 7 32-bit. In addition you would have retained all the preinstalled software.
If you have any questions, please post back in the open forum so the replies can help other members of the community.
Hi Blencogo,
Thank you SO MUCH for your (very prompt) reply to my public query.
I will try as you advise re. the Graphics driver.
And I see the sense of what you say about how the upgrade should ideally have been undertaken.
I like to think I might likely have actually chosen that seemingly easier route (though I wasn't aware of exactly what is kept or replaced during such an upgrade process) had not acute, chronic (BOSD) issues not appeared to demand (to my far less knowledgeable mind) a clean install of Win 7.
The severity of the issues were even preventing the windows system Diagnostics tool from completing a scan......or then (it seems) providing accurate scan reports on the root cause/s of the repeated varied BSOD issues. For example, a couple of times it diagnosed (unspecified) memory hardware problems......which since the latter Win 7 install have been repeatedly reported back as fine on all latter scans of various intensity.
So whilst it seemed at the time to be the best route, I readily concede that I could very possibly have made the worst of choices nonetheless....
I will get in touch again. Be it to primarily thank you for the (fingers crossed) successful help you have kindly provided (which would doubtless prove benefitial to another in a similar state). Or to provide update on my continuing efforts.
Cheers!!!
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Hi to Blencogo, and to any parties reading this,
This is the update that was promised....
But first I'd like to give some guidance (to any other know nothings) on the creation/install process of modded INFs for non-SONY Graphics Drivers.
Then I'll give some bumph on my personal progress....
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I tried the above advice given by Blencogo (thank you again).
The site had a how-to guide, but as that giude didn't explain EVERYTHING in a clear dot-to-dot manner it took a little trial and error (and frustration on my part) in working it out (and was therefore unnecessarily trickier than it needed to have been for a complete noob).
Perhaps such sites don't imagine they might well be catering to visitors of so base a level of knowhow as myself.....
So....for anybody else who is seeking how to update their Graphics Driver by using a "modded" graphics driver INF file sourced from http://www.LaptopVideo2Go.com then it is as follows:
1 First download your GraphicsDriver from the site.
Leave the website page open because you will shortly be going back to it to get that Drivers' modded INF file data.
2 Unpack/Extract/Unzip the downloaded Driver.
3 Go into the unpacked driver folder/directory and find an INF file (which are info rich setup/loader files). INF type files are presented on your PC as a sheet of horizontally lined paper (with the top-right corner curled over) behind a large blue cog.
4 Copy one of the INF files from within the unpacked folder and paste/place that copied INF outside the folder/directory. Then open that INF (if asked for a means to do this then choose to do it with either the Windows Notepad or Wordpad utilities). Then delete all of the data inside.
5 Then return to the website and open the modded INF file. Copy all of the data within it.....which obvioulsy looks on the website to be data similar in type to the now-deleted data in the now-empty INF file.
6 Paste that copied date into the now-empty INF file. And then save it.
7 Rename your newly created INF file (just for easy indentification purposes when you begin the install of the Driver).
Rename it as, eg: the number of the downloaded graphics driver (and its issue date?). In any case you will want it to be be distinguishable from any other INFs in the Driver directory when you begin installing the Driver (and for if you keep it......in case you should you ever have need to perform that install again at some later date).
8 Copy your modded INF into the Graphics Driver directory sub-folder: Driver.Display
Then you are ready to begin the Driver installing process (which has an explanatory how-to guide at the bottom of the site page where the drivers are listed for downloading ).
You will be choosing:
A) Browse my computer for Driver software
B) Let me pick from a list of devices on my computer
C) "Have Disk"
(you'll see when you come to it).......
Ultimately, the file that you will then be targeting/opening to initiate the Driver install is the modded INF file that you have placed into the Display.Driver sub-folder.
Best of luck!
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I tried the 302.59 driver as suggested (but having had several unsuccessful attempts due to not understanding the INF file creation process, or something) I believe it possible that I might have consequently caused a corruption, and so prevented what could otherwise have ended up a a successful install
. In any event, my Win 7 64bit system wouldn't ultimately accept the driver as compatible (even when eventually installed in the proscribed manner).
I subsequently tried a fair number of other drivers with the same successful install process, but with the same fruitless outcome.
As, by this point, I was then running out of time to solve things, I made the regrettable but necessary decision to perform a fresh downgrade install to Windows 7 32bit.
And the first modded driver I subsequently tried: 301.42 (32 bit version) installed without issue, and is working.
Have still been getting occasional BSOD, with the same repeat reason: Bad Pool Header but things are better than they were.
I am still trying to resolve the cause/s of this BSOD issue, and have been alerted to the possibility that my BIOS (which dates from 18 July '07....and is consequently quite aged now) is a possible culprit. As a result I am hoping to get an update for this (though Sony don't issue them). There are (as for the GraphicsDrivers) sites that do such modifying of existing software.
My BIOS version is: R1050J8 manufactured by Phoenix
My PC is model: VGN-AR51SU
I now need a downloadable copy of this BIOS software as a start point for any such modification.
But haven't as yet had any luck in learning what name it is issued/available under, beyond it being a file of likely a eight digit number (which occupies the space between the hyphens): PHBSYS- _______ -US.EXE
Though the: -US preceder to the: .EXE might be an incorrect assumption (borne of seeing many other such PHBSYS- _____-UN.EXE BIOS downloadable files)
These big brains don't like to make things too easy for the rest of us, do they....!!
I am planning a fresh/format install of Win 7 64bit (in the hope that a clean (first-time) install of the Driver into a freshly installed OS may prove successful).
If there are any insights or feedback regarding the BIOS, or anything related to the BSOD (or any other issues) they will be very gratefully received.
Thanks!
Another update........
Formatted my PC and did a fresh install of Win 7 64-bit last night.
As soon as the install was completed I tried a modded Graphics Driver update (one I had previously been trying without success) and it has installed and works perfectly!
So I guess my previous failures don't necessarily mean that a particular thing isn't possible. Just maybe that it is best being done right the first time.......