Save applications on the sd AX2 card

[fca000]

Buenas. 

Tengo un xperia ax2 y no tiene la opción de pasar las aplicaciones de la memoria interna del teléfono a la tarjeta SD, esto hace que sus 32 gigas de almacenamiento interno se queden un poco cortos.

¿Se contempla alguna actualización con esta función? 

Good.

I have an xperia ax2 and does not have the option to pass the applications from the internal memory of the phone to the SD card, this makes its 32 gigs of internal storage are a bit short.

Is any update contemplated with this function?

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[dirgas]

Yeah, and we have A1/A2 Application Performance Class standard since 2018...

[Kklaar9801]

You should make it known when you change critical features like that. 32 GB is no big deal if you can format external as adopted storage or move apps to external, but it's way under sized if you can't  I recently bought my phone, my first Sony, but.nothing about that was on the advertising I saw. It's a shame because I really like the phone, but because of the restrictions it can't meet my needs. Regardless of Google changes, Samsung is about to bring back adoptable storage which is one of the reasons I left them  I guess I'll be going back when it's released. 

[Jonas]

Hi @Kklaar9801!

I understand the frustration, however as far as I know, we have never said that this is supported on any of our devices (even for those devices where it's possible) and if you know that you are in need of a specific feature/service, it's always best to check if this is supported or not before purchasing the product.

Adoptable storage is a feature that we never implemented in our devices when it was made available in Android 6.0 due to it impacting software encoding and quality.

[simonmmm]

Translation - "Sony don't care that their oversized opperating system and bloatware make your phone unusable without the Android features they specifically disable (don't blame Google, SD card adoption is available by default) so it's our fault for buying a Sony, we should know they

Well I won't make that mistake again.

[Jonas]

Hi @Simonmmmmm, welcome to our forum!

As far as I know, no Pixel devices has had support for SD card at all, so transferring data to a SD card or merge the SD card with the internal storage is not an option on their devices.

[simonmmm]

Thank you Jonas,

Acutally you can even have it while still using file based encryption security.

"Android 6.0 introduced the ability to adopt external storage media to act like internal storage."

"Devices running Android 9 and higher can use adoptable storage and FBE."

source: Android.com

Of course they may have decided they didn't need it for the Pixel, if it had large internal storage and a reasonably small OS. Sony, on the other hand takes up more than half with just the opperating files.

[Jonas]

Hi again @Simonmmmmm!

That is correct, however the option to merge the SD card with the internal storage is not something that has been available in any Xperia device, due to impacting coding and performance.

In an Xperia XA2, the operating system takes up around 11 GB and that leaves the other 21 GB to apps and other user data, so it's about a third of the internal storage that is occupied by the Android system. This is in general for almost all our devices that the operating system takes up around a third of the internal storage.

If you go to Settings > Storage > tap on "Internal shared storage", how much does it say that the system is occupying in your device? If this is way more than 11 GB, there is something that is not correct.

Feel free to keep me posted!

[simonmmm]

Thank you Jonas,

That bit about seeing data use in settings was genuinely useful.

It's interesting other apps report available internal space as under 20GB, but they're obviously discounting the core operating system files.

However considering all possible non-app files (images, videos, audio, etc) I'm storing on the external sd-card, I would argue the 20GB remaining is clearly not enough since it's litterally just the operating files for the apps I have installed.

I must have merged the sd-card storage on a rooted phone then, because I've definitely done it. I'm tired of having to mess around rooting phones just to get them to function though, I'm not going to do that again, I'm just going to have to buy a different brand that does what I need, even if the handset isn't physically as nice.

[Jonas]

Hi again @Simonmmmmm!

Yeah, other file manager will not show the space that the Android system is occupying, the will only show the amount of storage that can be used.

I know that some games are very big in size and can take up a lot of internal storage and since when you update an application, it always gets bigger, it's not hard to fill the internal storage.

You have probably already checked this, but the amount of cached data ramps up quite quickly in some applications and can be cleared without removing any personal data. It's a shame that Google removed the one button that cleared all cached data in one go and you now have to go in to each application to clear it, but if you haven't checked this, it's worth it (last time I did it, my Chrome had saved 1.5 GB of cached data).

Go to Settings > Apps & notifications > name of the app > Storage > Clear cache > OK.

If it was a different brand that you merged the internal storage with the SD card, it could be that they included this feature, but we have not had it at least.

We have devices with more than 32 GB of internal storage, but those are mostly flagships and costs quite a lot more than the medium range devices, except for the Xperia 10 and Xperia 10 Plus that both have 64 GB of internal storage and are still medium range devices.

Hopefully that helps!

[simonmmm]

It's not the cost its the size. Every "flagship" mobile phone is just too big. They could be thicker if they needed the space for hardware, but Sony were the only ones making decent spec sensible sized handsets.

Aside from being temporary, the issue with clearing the cache is the phone has to reload everything back into the cache every time it opens the relevant apps, draining battery and slowing performance. I don't consider that a solution.

I don't have any large games or any unreasonably space-hogging apps at all. It's just a reasonable and practical, number of ordinary apps, but soon enough that's all the available internal memory gone.

Whatsapp is the only unreasonable amount of storage on internal memory since it can't store on external memory, but that's probably the app I use more than any other, so I can't get rid of it.