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TG1730
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STR DN-1080 and Sony UBPX700B

Hi there, I currently own a Sony STR DN-1080 AV Receiver and I was told by my local Harvey Norman shop that the Sony Blu-ray UBPX700B (https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/home-cinema-media-players-soundbars/4k-blu-ray-players/so...) wasn't a suitable DVD Player to use with this Receiver.    Is this really the case?     I was hoping to play DVD's on my TV an/or cinema screen, both connected to the DN-1080.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Tony

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HannahEd01
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Hey TG1730, this is weird! both have HDMI! they should work fine.. Why did they say that?

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Thanks Hannah...I was equally surprised ....they were a bit vague on the reason.  They just said that "you should get expert advice" on this!    Is it as simple as them both having HDMI?   I assumed that this was the case.

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HannahEd01
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Hey TG1730, this is weird! both have HDMI! they should work fine.. Why did they say that?

TG1730
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Thanks Hannah...I was equally surprised ....they were a bit vague on the reason.  They just said that "you should get expert advice" on this!    Is it as simple as them both having HDMI?   I assumed that this was the case.

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HannahEd01
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IDK.. maybe cause it's 2017? I'm not sure, but they will definitely work.

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royabrown2
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@TG1730 

 

With HDMI, the two devices have to share compatible levels, 1.4, 2.0 (probably), or 2.1

If not, then either the two devices can’t communicate, or (more likely) the higher-spec device will drop to the lower level, compromising the quality of what it can put out.

 

You also need to consider what level of HDCP they can operate at; 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2?
Same compromise possibility here.

 

Finally, what sound quality can the two devices agree on? Atmos, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS, plain Dolby Digital?

 

So, much more subtle than just both having HDMI of some sort.

 

To give you a concrete example, consider my Panasonic UHD player, my Yamaha YSP2500 soundbar, and my Samsung JS9000 TV. All top-notch devices in their day, but:-

if I connected the UHD player to the Yamaha, then that could handle the audio uncompromised, but could only negotiate HDCP 2.1 with the TV, so compromised picture quality, with no HDR.

But the TV could do HDCP 2.2 if I plugged the UHD player into it directly, and give me the uncompromised video from the UHD player with HDR and all. However, it could not pass the audio to the Yamaha over ARC without compromise.

 

Because of situations like this, the better UHD players have the option of separate HDMI outs for video and for audio. So I fed the Video Out to the TV, and the Audio Out to the Yamaha Soundbar, and got everything the UHD player could give, uncompromised.

 

The UBPX700B has these two HDMI outs; so at worst you could send the video direct to the TV (you don’t say what model this is, but it would be sure to do the best it can) and the audio to the DN1080. So unless Harvey Norman think the DN-1080 won’t be able to handle the audio the UHD player puts out at all, I don’t know what their beef with it might be.

 

After all, the DN-1080 is still a current Sony receiver, and can probably handle the audio uncompromised, and can probably even pass the video to the TV uncompromised.

 

And so we come full circle; yes there is far more to it here than just both devices having HDMI, and there are in fact three devices to consider, as the TV comes into it as well.

 

But the two HDMI outputs on the UHD player mean that you can get the best video and audio possible from your TV and the DN-1080, and you don’t have to worry about any shortcomings of the link between the TV and the DN-1080 as you can feed the TV and the DN-1080 both directly from the UHD player, and nothing goes over that link.

 

So, armed with this posting, challenge the Harvey Norman salesman to explain exactly why this  UHD player isn’t suitable. And ask him what is, and then come back and tell us what he says 😛


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royabrown2
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@TG1730 @HannahEd01 

 

Looking again, I thought I had this sussed. The Sony blurb for the DN-1080 suggests pairing it with the 800 UHD player is a perfect match.

 

But it doesn’t mention the 700 Player. Maybe because it didn’t come out until a year after the 1080?

Anyway the 800 does a few things the 700 doesn’t, which considering its RRP of £350 versus £230 for the 700 it jolly well should, so I thought that maybe Harvey Norman were trying to upsell you. But they don’t offer the 800. Go figure…..

 

But unless you have a burning desire to use Bluetooth or to upscale your mp3s, you probably don’t want to pay the extra for the 800, and in terms of playing your UHDs or lesser discs, the 700 is largely the equal of, and in some aspects better than, the 800. And at 65% of its price.

 

https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x700/review


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HannahEd01
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Hey there royabrown2, who's well structured and informed now 😜. Thank you for the clarification.